Is this France’s Own Patriot Act?

5 mai 2015
Interview de - Atlantic Council
What does the new surveillance law passed by Parliament specify?
The idea is to modernize the capabilities of the intelligence services, particularly given the rise of digital media. This legislation is not limited to terrorism. It is designed to prevent organized crime and protect essential interests of foreign policy and essential economic or scientific interests of France.
One of the goals is to legalize activities that until now did not have a legal basis. This law is essentially designed to protect the intelligence services.
A Socialist deputy who is also the President of the Legislative Committee of the National Assembly noted that France is the last Western democracy not to have a formal legal framework covering the activities of its intelligence services.
In France there is 100 percent consensus on diplomacy and defense, and this is part of defense.

Critics see the legislation as a dangerous extension of mass surveillance, and have compared it to the US Patriot Act. Do you agree?
It is partly a response to the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January, but it is not a knee-jerk Patriot Act. It is an attempt to put an appropriate legal framework around intelligence-gathering activities and to include in that legal framework the new types of communications technology.
In one sense, it certainly goes in the direction of the Patriot Act because it formalizes what the intelligence services are allowed to do, but the view in the United States is that the Patriot Act and the response to 9/11 was overdone.
There are a couple of differences between France and the United States on this point. One, the French government is seen as the protector of civil liberties. There have been protests that this legislation will allow the government to spy on us, but I think everybody thinks that the government in France already has a lot of information.
The primary priority of the French people is security. That’s why when the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened there was 100 percent support for the way the security services responded. This legislation updates and fills the gap, something that the Charlie Hebdo attacks made clear needs to be done.
In France, a Constitutional Council has skilled advisors to opine on whether a law is constitutional in advance of it being adopted. In the United States, it could take a generation to know whether a law is constitutional because it has to go through a long appeals process, since the Supreme Court is both the ultimate court of appeals as well as the constitutional court.
François Hollande, with this particular law, is asking the Constitutional Council for an opinion as to the constitutionality of the law in advance of the law being promulgated. This is the first time since 1958 that the President of the republic has actually himself gone to the Constitutional Council and asked for such a clarification. So in terms of protecting civil liberties, the state is doing its job.

Following Edward Snowden’s revelations, many US lawmakers now favor scaling back the National Security Agency’s access to Internet data. How do you explain these divergent approaches?
In France, you don’t have an adversarial government system. In the United States, Congress is there to correct the excesses of the executive. In the United States, things happen because they happen and then they get adjusted afterwards. But in France things are designed in advance to work so that there isn’t an adversarial readjustment.
Today’s legislation won overwhelming approval in Parliament. Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, did lawmakers feel they had very little political mileage to gain by opposing this law?
There is genuinely a national consensus that part of the state’s job is to provide security and they need a law that needs to be updated to include intelligence-gathering activities that were happening before without a specific legal basis, and to update it so that it includes new communications technologies. That’s a sensible thing to do. This is not a panic reaction.
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